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Money. Romance. Tragedy. Deception. The story of Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos is an unbelievable tale of ambition and fame gone terribly wrong. How did the world’s youngest self-made female billionaire lose it all in the blink of an eye? How did the woman once heralded as “the next Steve Jobs” find herself facing criminal charges — to which she pleaded not guilty — and up to decades in prison? How did her technology, meant to revolutionize health care, potentially put millions of patients at risk? And how did so many smart people get it so wrong along the way? ABC News chief business, technology and economics correspondent Rebecca Jarvis, along with producers Taylor Dunn and Victoria Thompson, take listeners on a journey that includes a multi-year investigation. You'll hear exclusive interviews with former employees, investors, and patients, and for the first-time, the never-before-aired deposition testimony of Elizabeth Holmes, and those at the center of this story. Then, go inside the courtroom as 12 jurors decide the fate of the Theranos founder; three years after she was first charged, we find out how this saga finally ends.

Money. Romance. Tragedy. Deception. The story of Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos is an unbelievable tale of ambition and fame gone terribly wrong. How did the world’s youngest self-made female billionaire lose it all in the blink of an eye? How did the woman once heralded as “the next Steve Jobs” find herself facing criminal charges — to which she pleaded not guilty — and up to decades in prison? How did her technology, meant to revolutionize health care, potentially put millions of patients at risk? And how did so many smart people get it so wrong along the way? ABC News chief business, technology and economics correspondent Rebecca Jarvis, along with producers Taylor Dunn and Victoria Thompson, take listeners on a journey that includes a multi-year investigation. You'll hear exclusive interviews with former employees, investors, and patients, and for the first-time, the never-before-aired deposition testimony of Elizabeth Holmes, and those at the center of this story. Then, go inside the courtroom as 12 jurors decide the fate of the Theranos founder; three years after she was first charged, we find out how this saga finally ends.

 

#39

Introducing 'Pop Culture Moms' from ABC & Good Morning America

We wanted to tell you about another podcast you might like: "Pop Culture Moms," new from our friends at ABC Audio and "Good Morning America." In "Pop Culture Moms," best friends Andie and Sabrina talk the joys and challenges of parenting, and the lessons they've learned from watching some of the most iconic moms in TV and movies. Search for "Pop Culture Moms" on your favorite podcast platform or click here to jump to it ---> https://link.chtbl.com/popculturemomss1?sid=thedropout Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

02 May 2024

04 MINS

04:13

02 May 2024


#38

Introducing 'Reclaimed: The Forgotten League'

For decades, Black baseball players were excluded from the major leagues and forced to create their own space: the Negro Leagues. In the new season of ABC Audio's award-winning podcast "Reclaimed," Vanessa Ivy Rose, granddaughter of Negro Leagues star Norman “Turkey” Stearnes, brings us on a quest to excavate his story and those of other Black players who were shut out of the majors, a legacy that still haunts the sport. Check out "Reclaimed: The Forgotten League" on Apple Podcasts (https://tinyurl.com/27krwnxr), Spotify (https://tinyurl.com/mvejpt2t), Amazon Music (https://tinyurl.com/mrxxfkmu), or wherever you're listening now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

05 Oct 2023

03 MINS

03:10

05 Oct 2023


#37

Introducing 'The King Road Killings: An Idaho Murder Mystery'

It began as a weekend of football, parties, late-night food and good friends -- a normal Saturday night in the college town of Moscow, Idaho. But Sunday morning, four University of Idaho students are found stabbed to death in their beds. Through friends, witnesses, video surveillance and social media footage, we get to know who the victims were and reconstruct their final hours. Presenting the first episode of the new true-crime podcast "The King Road Killings: An Idaho Murder Mystery," a series that goes behind the scenes of the investigation into the savage murders of four University of Idaho students -- a case that captivated and horrified the nation in the winter of 2022. Find new episodes weekly on Apple Podcasts (https://tinyurl.com/2p8tbm6r), Spotify (https://tinyurl.com/yc2wj534), Amazon Music (https://tinyurl.com/3akehrhk) or wherever you're listening now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

13 Jun 2023

32 MINS

32:19

13 Jun 2023


#36

The King Road Killings: An Idaho Murder Mystery

Follow the new true crime podcast from ABC News, ["The King Road Killings: An Idaho Murder Mystery,"] (https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/ESP4774964504) to hear the full five-part series, debuting June 7 on [Apple Podcasts] (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-king-road-killings-an-idaho-murder-mystery/id1687357696) , [Spotify] (https://open.spotify.com/show/6mBtF4lQkWh1PyaDrmSrxD) , [Amazon Music] (https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/bbd964bc-a1df-4789-9dd1-48fd88867c76/the-king-road-killings-an-idaho-murder-mystery) , and other major podcast platforms. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

18 May 2023

04 MINS

04:39

18 May 2023


#35

'Boston Strangler' | Ep. 1: The Women

In June 1962, a woman opens the door to a stranger. What happens next will shock the country and haunt the streets of Boston for years to come. Sixty years later, the story of the Boston Strangler still has a hold on the public imagination. The new ABC Audio podcast, "Truth and Lies: The Boston Strangler," retraces the tragic fate of the victims and explores why a killer’s confession never closed this decades-old case. "Truth and Lies: The Boston Strangler" -- a new three-part series, available on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/3wgRdzb), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/3XFQm6X), Amazon Music (https://amzn.to/3ksWvFj), or wherever you're listening now. And check out “Boston Strangler,” starring Keira Knightley, streaming now on Hulu. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

27 Mar 2023

32 MINS

32:34

27 Mar 2023


#34

Introducing "Truth and Lies: The Boston Strangler"

Sixty years later, the story of the Boston Strangler still has a hold on the public imagination. The new ABC Audio podcast, "Truth and Lies: The Boston Strangler," retraces the tragic fate of the victims and explores why a killer’s confession never closed this decades-old case. "Truth and Lies: The Boston Strangler" -- a new three-part series, available on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/3wgRdzb), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/3XFQm6X), Amazon Music (https://amzn.to/3ksWvFj), or wherever you're listening now. And check out “Boston Strangler,” starring Keira Knightley, streaming now on Hulu. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

20 Mar 2023

01 MINS

01:51

20 Mar 2023


#33

'The Informant' | Ep. 1: There's No Place Like Home

Today we bring you Ep. 1 of "Truth and Lies: The Informant," a new five-part series from ABC Audio that tells the remarkable story of an ordinary man who risked his life as an FBI informant to stop what would've been one of the worst terrorist attacks in U.S. history. Follow along and listen to the next episode right now on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/3wgRdzb), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/3XFQm6X), Amazon Music (https://amzn.to/3ksWvFj), or your app of choice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

01 Feb 2023

44 MINS

44:21

01 Feb 2023


#32

Introducing 'Truth & Lies: The Informant'

Check out "Truth and Lies: The Informant" from our colleagues at ABC Audio, a remarkable story of an ordinary man who risked his life as an FBI informant to stop what would've been one of the worst terrorist attacks in U.S. history. A new five-part series, available on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/3wgRdzb), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/3XFQm6X), Amazon Music (https://amzn.to/3ksWvFj), or wherever you're listening now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

26 Jan 2023

02 MINS

02:24

26 Jan 2023


#31

Bonus: Sentenced

In a special bonus episode of "The Dropout: Elizabeth Holmes on Trial," we break down what happened during Holmes' sentencing hearing and what is next for the once-lauded Theranos founder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

19 Nov 2022

08 MINS

08:26

19 Nov 2022


#30

Bonus: Amanda and The Other Liz

Amanda Seyfried, the lead actress of Hulu’s “The Dropout” and the show’s creator and showrunner Liz Meriwether join host Rebecca Jarvis for a wide-ranging conversation about the making of the Hulu limited series based on the ABC News podcast. Seyfried has been nominated for an Emmy in the category of Outstanding Lead Actress in a Limited or Anthology Series or Movie for her portrayal of Elizabeth Holmes, one of six nominations for the Hulu series this year.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

11 Aug 2022

48 MINS

48:16

11 Aug 2022


#29

The Sunny Balwani Verdict

Rebecca Jarvis sits down with Brad Mielke, host of ABC News’ “Start Here” podcast to talk about the conviction of former Theranos president Ramesh “Sunny” Balwani. Follow “Start Here” on Apple Podcasts ( [https://apple.co/2maaMIF] (https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapple.co%2F2maaMIF&data=05%7C01%7CJen.Newman%40abc.com%7Caae5dbdbe1c64dc0cd7908da60744139%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C637928349668135789%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ynOGsJ0gBw73eI2BDo7LIi8ouHb9cgi66MRDT8E8wso%3D&reserved=0) ), Spotify ( [https://spoti.fi/3nNbcBC] (https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fspoti.fi%2F3nNbcBC&data=05%7C01%7CJen.Newman%40abc.com%7Caae5dbdbe1c64dc0cd7908da60744139%7C56b731a8a2ac4c32bf6b616810e913c6%7C1%7C0%7C637928349668135789%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=D6XSG7O7%2BOYu46R408bcMQ6%2F1xi%2BXTp5H4B4cfNREFc%3D&reserved=0) ), or wherever you listen to get the day’s top headlines every morning. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

08 Jul 2022

06 MINS

06:38

08 Jul 2022


#28

'20/20': The Rise and Con of Elizabeth Holmes

The new Hulu limited series based on this podcast and starring Oscar-nominee Amanda Seyfried as Elizabeth Holmes is out now. And in case you missed 20/20’s behind-the-scenes look at the show, we wanted to drop it in this feed, so you can listen now. You’ll hear from the stars of the Hulu series and a member of the jury that convicted Elizabeth. And be sure to follow the 20/20 podcast on [Apple Podcasts] (https://apple.co/3KhmzuH) , [Spotify] (https://spoti.fi/34fONXg) , or wherever you're listening now for more true crime stories from ABC News. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

06 Mar 2022

1 HR 21 MINS

1:21:03

06 Mar 2022


#27

The Verdict

Three years after Elizabeth Holmes was charged with 11 counts of fraud, the verdict we’ve all been waiting for is finally in. After seven days and over 50 hours of deliberation, the 12 members of the jury -- one of whom gave us details that you’ll hear for the first time on this podcast -- found Holmes guilty on four counts. They were hung on an additional three. How did they reach these conclusions? And what happens next? What will affect Elizabeth’s sentencing, and how will the appeal process work in this case? Finally, what will the ripple effects be for Silicon Valley?  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

05 Jan 2022

48 MINS

48:09

05 Jan 2022


#26

Closing Arguments

More than three months, 32 witnesses and three juror dismissals after the criminal trial of Elizabeth Holmes began, attorneys for the prosecution and defense had the chance to make their final appeals with closing arguments. Who presented the most compelling case? What resonated most with the eight men and four women of the jury? Whatever the case, the fate of Elizabeth Holmes could be days away from being decided. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

21 Dec 2021

1 HR 16 MINS

1:16:39

21 Dec 2021


#25

The Defense Rests

The testimony of Elizabeth Holmes continues this week, finally concluding after seven days. And in a surprising move, the defense calls no further witnesses, resting its case. So after three months and dozens of witnesses, who came out on top? Will the defense strategy pay off? Soon, both sides will have one last shot to make a case in closing arguments before 12 jurors decide the fate of Elizabeth Holmes.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

14 Dec 2021

57 MINS

57:50

14 Dec 2021


#24

Accusations and Evasions

This week, the most jaw-dropping testimony in this trial yet. Elizabeth Holmes fights back tears telling the court she was raped when she was at Stanford and claims she was in an emotional and physically abusive relationship with her former boyfriend and Theranos COO Sunny Balwani, who firmly denies all allegations. Plus, the government begins its cross-examination, and while Elizabeth Holmes seemed to be able to recall her life in vivid detail throughout the defense’s questioning, her memories suddenly got more hazy, even non-existent, at times. Will the jury be thrown by the sudden evasiveness? And ultimately, will charges of abuse negate the allegations of fraud?   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

07 Dec 2021

1 HR 14 MINS

1:14:53

07 Dec 2021


#23

Reframing the Narrative

This week, Elizabeth Holmes returns to the stand, presenting herself as a confident CEO with a noble mission who also naively took experts at their word. She meticulously details how she built her business -- even admitting to having doctored those pharmaceutical documents -- but implies over and over again that she relied on information given to her by scientists, doctors and board members to solidify her understanding of where her company stood. Will it be enough to convince a jury that she had no intent to defraud investors? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

30 Nov 2021

53 MINS

53:08

30 Nov 2021


#22

The Prosecution Rests & Elizabeth Speaks

In a monumental week in the trial of United States v. Elizabeth A. Holmes, the prosecution introduced its final week of witnesses before resting its case. Among them, a patient who received troubling results from a Theranos HIV test and a journalist whose damaging interviews with Elizabeth were played for the first time in court. And in a literal final-hour shocker, the defense called Elizabeth Holmes to the stand. Did the government bring its case home? Did Elizabeth begin to sway the jury? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

23 Nov 2021

1 HR 04 MINS

1:04:51

23 Nov 2021


#21

The Beginning of the End

In this episode, we hear from two Theranos lab directors -- one who never met Elizabeth or stepped foot into the company’s lab, another who ultimately voided more than 50,000 Theranos tests after a damning government inspection. And we hear from an irate investor who says Elizabeth Holmes cut off communication with him when he asked for basic information about the company. Plus, 10 weeks into the trial, with only 24 witnesses out of a possible 181 on the government’s initial list having taken the stand, we hear a surprising update from prosecutor Jeffrey Schenk: This week might be the prosecution’s last before it rests its case.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit [megaphone.fm/adchoices] (https://megaphone.fm/adchoices) ... Read more

16 Nov 2021

46 MINS

46:38

16 Nov 2021